Monday, November 30, 2009

What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

OK, this group is found at:



http://groups.myspace.com/aforjesus



Basically, they are atheists, and so do not believe in got or the Christian doctorine of a god-man. However, they do believe in a historical Jesus, and argue that he was a wise man, a true revelutionary, and serious positive influence on the developemnt of culture. They also add that he had to be a theist because everyone was in his time, with no other option, but might nor have been a theist if born into hour world. Thats it in a nutshell for those who don't want to read the much longer presentation on the groups page.



So what do you think of these idea? -- A Jesus fan club by and for atheists.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

it sounds like a cry for attention. another feeble attempt for these particular atheists to bridge the gap, if you will, between science and religion. Jesus' ideas weren't that original and the things christanity says about how to be moral and decent and all that jazz either aren't that original either or have been said in a far superior way before or since. plus, if you read the bible, jesus wasn't always that nice and friendly like christians want you to think he was... don't believe me? check out this quote straight from the bible...



"Do not think that I have come to send peace on earth: I have not come to send peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man's foes will be those in his own household. He who loves mother or father more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me" - Jesus Christ (Matthew 10:34 - 37, Revised Standard Version)



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Eh, whatever boils their noodle, I suppose.



I don't think Jesus and his teachings were all that original or spectacular.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

no



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

OMG



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

I think it is attempting to be innovative, and possibly controversial, but is simply ridiculous.



Also, where's the historical evidence for this "Jesus" figure?



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

I would join! I dont believe in God. But I do believe Jesus existed...



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Jesus is nothing less than the only begotten Son of God. Anything less than this belief leads one straight to hell.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

sounds like an oxymoron to me.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

makes as much sense as jews for jesus...



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Just brainless people trying to justify,stupidity.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

I think the same about this organization as I would one called "Idiots for MENSA"!!!!



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

sounds like mans idea of whats true.....maybe it satisfies a temporary void in minds of unbelievers



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Good idea.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

I've never denied that Jesus was a good person, fictional or not. All he seems to have taught was that people should be kind to eachother and I don't think any atheist should disagree with that. He's one of the few consistent good rolemodels out there.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Interesting. Jesus as a humanitarian and philosopher who had to resort to using theism as a tool for spreading his message. Personally, I don't think I'll join.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Well, it's a beginning, at least...



As my sister keeps reminding me when I don't get my way....



Baby steps, Deb...baby steps!!



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Er......duh. I thought most atheists knew Jesus was a real person. I feel awkward.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Jesus (historically) wasn't all that nice.... I would find this group to be rather silly...



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Whatever gets their laundry done.



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What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

I'd say that they have that right. What's it to you? You don't own Jesus. If they do not believe he is a god and are interested in his teachings, it doesn't make them any less of an atheist. It's not a group that I would be interested in because it's a little too close to religion since the most of what is known about Jesus is written in a book that I believe is a work of manmade fiction and propaganda geared toward making a martyr out of Jesus and concocting a new religion.



atheist



The Atheist Bible, it could be said, has but one word: "THINK." - Emmett Fields



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

There is a historical Jesus even the Jews and Islam believe in the historical Jesus.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Stupid dumb a s s idea. The Historical Jesus is the Jesus



of the Bible. It won't help their spiritual life or lack thereof.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

As a Christian I think this is a great idea, as I believe that Jesus' ideas are wonderful and should be used outside of religious activities, that being said I would hope that your group will be respectful towards him and his name.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

The word retarded comes to mind.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Jefferson was there 200 years ago.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Hey I'm not sure where all this Jesus was an atheist talk is coming from, but anything that might bring them an inch closer to God.....I say that's great



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

I can understand that and agree with it, but there is no physical proof Jesus existed. There were in fact many "messiahs" with loads of followers, around the time and birthplace of Jesus, that just didn't take off like Christianity did. I don't know if he was a visionary or just a product of his time. I am a fan of Jesus, but not organized religion or Christianity. Most American Christians would call Jesus a liberal hippie today.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

Im not willing to accept Jesus as an Icon for Atheism so no. Jesus walked on water and turned water into wine and that does not sound atheistic and logically possible to me. Also, Christians say Jesus is the son of God, so no... atheism for Jesus doesn't make sense.



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

okay, why not? after all-Christ's message and teachings were meant for EVERYONE-i have serious doubts about whether He was a 'theist' because 'everyone was in His time'...unless, of course, He was a liar or a deluded sheep...in which case, He would not have been much of a wise man, would He? logically speaking, of course...what He said He was, is not in doubt-He had a way of getting to the point, and He was not known for saying things that He didn't mean-so, "atheists for jesus?" why not?



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

What I think they are selling is...that they do not believe in the Resurrection. That would be believing in the "Holy Spirit". And I do believe in the Holy Spirit. I can give testimony as to how God the "Holy Ghost" has protected me...and guided me...therefore LOVES me.



If one believes there is evil in the devil...then one can believe that God is alive...because the devil even believes in God!



What do you think of the ideas of this group, "Atheists for Jesus?"?

people must be very bored

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